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Automatically Backup to SkyDrive 2.0

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It’s been a very long time since I’ve posted a real tutorial, but here goes.

I’m going to show you how to backup to Windows Live SkyDrive, but this time, for free and it actually works, but still with some of the limitations(The 50MB limit, and a 9 subfolder limit). Here’s what you need:

  1. Microsoft Office 2010 (You can get the beta for free here)
  2. A Windows Live ID
  3. GoodSync(Or any other backup utility that works with Mapped Drives)
  4. Windows 7

SkyDrive

Go to http://skydrive.live.com, and sign in.
Welcome to Windows Live - Google Chrome

Click the “Create Folder” link on the top left.
SkyDrive - Windows Live - Google Chrome2

Type in “Backup,” or whatever you want your backup folder to be called, and make sure that your privacy setting is set to “Just Me.” Click “Next,” and then on the next page, click “Cancel.” You won’t be doing anything else on SkyDrive for now.

Create a folder - Windows Live - Google Chrome2 Add files - Windows Live - Google Chrome2

Linking ID’s

Before you do anything else, you need to link Windows 7 with your Windows Live ID. To do this, go to the start menu, and click your account picture.
Start Menu 1

Click “Link Online IDs” in the sidebar, and then click “Add Online Provider.”
User Accounts2 Link Online IDs2

This should open up your default browser to the Online IDs page at Microsoft. Click you Operating System bits(32 or 64) download button, then click “Save”, and then after downloading, either click it, or push “Run.” If you need help telling which bit-version you have, click “Am I running a 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows?” link.
Windows 7 online ID providers - Microsoft Windows - Google Chrome (2) Open File - Security Warning

Follow the Installation process, and then click finish.
Windows Live ID Sign-in Assistant Setup

Go back to the User Accounts window, if you’re not already returned there. You should see a Windows Live section in the list now. Click “Link Online ID,” and then enter your Windows Live ID information. Click “Sign In.” You’re done with that section. Now, we’re off to Office.
Link Online IDs (2)
Sign in - Windows Live ID

Office

If you don’t have Microsoft Office 2010, you can get the beta version for free here.

Open up any Office application(You can use any application to do this, but for this example, I’m going to use Word.)

Click ‘File,” then click “Save and Send”(or “Share” if you have the beta version). Click “Save to Web”(or Save to SkyDrive in the beta version).
Document1 - Microsoft Word (3)

Click the “Sign In” button, and if you need to, enter your Windows Live information.
Windows Security

Office should think for a little bit, then it should show you all of your SkyDrive folders. Scroll down and click the “Save As” button. A window should pop up.
Document1 - Microsoft Word (4)2

In the window, select the address bar, and then copy the address by clicking it, selecting all of it, right-clicking it, and clicking “Copy”. Then click cancel. You just needed the address.
Save As (2)2

Windows Explorer

Now you need to go to “Computer”. You can do this by clicking on the Start button, and clicking “Computer”. In the window that opens, click “Map Network Drive”.
Computer

A window should open up. Right-click the textbox, and click “Paste.” Change “\whatever” (In the first picture, “\whatever” is \Pictures) to “\Backup”, or whatever you named the folder back in step 1. If you want, you can change the drive letter, but you don’t have to. Click “Finish”.

Map Network Drive (2)Map Network Drive (3)

It should start thinking. It may ask you for your Windows Live ID information. Give it to them.
Map Network Drive (4)2Windows Security (2)

It might take a little while, but it should open up a new window. That’s your SkyDrive Backup folder.
Computer (2)

GoodSync

Now it’s time for the good stuff. Download GoodSync at www.goodsync.com/download. Click the download button, and then click “Save.” After it’s done downloading, either click it, or click “Run.” Follow the installation steps, and then click “Finish.”
GoodSync Download - Google Chrome (2)

Start up GoodSync. If it’s your first time running it(and we assume it is), it will ask you to name your new backup. Name it something like “SkyDrive Backup,” and then click the “Backup” option. Click “Create”. (If you’re new to GoodSync, you might need to click the “Tutorial” link.)
New GoodSync Job

A new window should pop up, and a balloon should be pointing to a “Browse” button. This is your source folder; the folder you will be backing up. Click “Browse”.
1 SkyDrive Backup - GoodSync

A new window should open. Just browse to the folder you want, click on it, then click OK. In this example, I’m going to back up my “Pictures” folder.
Left Folder

Now a balloon should be pointing to another “Browse” button. This is your destination; the folder where you “Source” will go. So, in this example, “Pictures” is going to my SkyDrive backup drive. Click “Browse.”
1 SkyDrive Backup - GoodSync (2)

Click “My Computer,” and then click your SkyDrive backup drive. It should be under your physical drives, or your other mapped drives. Note: If you don’t want the contents of the “Pictures” folder(or whatever you picked) going into the backup drive, but instead want it going into a sub-directory, click your SkyDrive folder, and then click “Make New Folder,” and name it the name of the folder you wanted to back up. Click “Ok.”
Right Folder (5)

It should now start analyzing your source and destination. It’s now time to set up the automatic backup. Click the “Auto” button.
1 SkyDrive Backup - GoodSync (4)2

Now, in the picture below, I’m showing you the settings I use. I want it to sync on GoodSync Start, when the folders connect, and periodically. For periodically, I made it Mac style: It backs up every hour. But you can make it anything you want. if you don’t know what you’re doing, just use the settings I listed below(if you don’t have the fastest internet speed or the computer resources, I would recommend setting the time to over 2 hours). Click “Ok.”
[SkyDrive Backup] Options2

Next, to make the backup more automatic and less noticeable, go to the “Tools” menu, and then click “Program Options.” For these settings, you can also use the settings I’m using. Check “Show GoodSync in the system tray,” “Hide to system try when Main Window is closed,” and “Start GoodSync when Windows starts.” There you go.
GoodSync Options (2)

You should be ready to automatically backup to Windows Live SkyDrive! Enjoy!

Source: http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/totw/skydrive.asp

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Written by Andreas J.

May 4, 2010 at 11:54 pm

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  1. Just curious what the pros & cons are versus your prior post about backing up to Skydrive using Comodo.

    I don’t think GoodSync if free. 😦

    Thanks.

    beans

    May 14, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    • Automatically Backup to SkyDrive:

      Pros: Easier to set up and backup.

      Cons: Not free; Whenever you restart Comodo, it starts the backup all over again.

      Automatically Backup to SkyDrive 2.0:

      Pros: Everything is free, including GoodSync (There is a professional version, but you don’t need it for this article). It’s easier to backup in Windows 7.

      Cons: Not the easiest to set up; Login might not be remembered; It’s harder to get it to work in earlier OS’s, if at all(I haven’t tested this yet.)

      I hope this helps you. I’m trying to keep this “series” updated, as I rely on this feature daily, and others might also.

      Andreas

      May 17, 2010 at 12:40 am

      • As for the “Automatically Backup to SkyDrive” why do you say that is not free? Is it possible to use SyncBack or Crash Plan free instead of comodo with better results?

        night

        October 4, 2010 at 7:22 am

  2. Awesome, thank you! FYI, installing Office 2010 Beta may not be necessary:

    1. go to sky drive, create new folder, say “Backup”
    2. get # from this folders web link:
    https://cid-################.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Backup
    3. inserting # into either of these links worked when mapping the network drive
    https://egjymb.docs.live.net/################/Backup
    https://lpah5l.docs.live.net/################/Backup

    The first subdomain came from following the instructions and installing MS Office 2010 Beta. The second link worked and came from the image in the instructions on this page.

    Mike

    May 20, 2010 at 5:45 am

  3. What about the 50MB file limit in Skydrive?
    From what i’ve seen, GoodSync can’t create ‘volumes’.
    I tried the older version with Comodo with some other backup software, can’t remember which one, that one was free also i think, and did know how to zip the source files into volumes. i just can’t remember which one:)

    doru

    June 6, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    • Yes, sadly there is still the 50MB limit. I know Gladinet splits large files into 20MB volumes, but again, it’s not free.

      Andreas

      June 23, 2010 at 1:48 pm

  4. Hi, great tip thanks, I’ve set it all up and the Analysis looks OK, however when I sync I get this:

    Error locking folder X:: uploading lock file: The parameter is incorrect. (error 87)

    This is the first thing it does and it doesn’t proceed further. Has anyone else had this problem? It doesn’t seem to have happened on your example. Thanks again!

    Paul Westerman

    June 16, 2010 at 10:13 am

    • It seems this error is somehow related to the file extension. For instance I get the error when copying a file called blah.jpg, but if I rename it to blah.txt it copies fine.

      The SyncBackSE site (the syncing tool I use, though the error occurs whether I use it or not!) has this to say about the error:

      “This error can also occur when copying files to a SharePoint server and the file is of a restricted type. For example, a SharePoint server may be configured not to allow .PST files to be copied to it.”

      from: http://www.2brightsparks.com/help/index.php?action=kb&article=94

      Jeff

      June 25, 2010 at 4:04 am

  5. i ran into the same error and i couldn’t get it to work, so i just quit. back to dropbox for now:)

    doru

    June 16, 2010 at 10:18 am

  6. same error 87!!

    If someone could help it would be great!

    Or is there an alternative to goodsync?

    natternoise

    June 21, 2010 at 6:06 pm

  7. Is there a way to find the folder address without having to download office 2010?

    rockville

    June 22, 2010 at 11:05 pm

  8. rockville

    June 23, 2010 at 6:33 am

  9. same error 87!!

    rockville

    June 23, 2010 at 7:55 am

  10. Hi I tried this and got an “access denied (error 5)” message next to every file that I attempted to sync.

    The GoodSync FAQ said this:

    Q: I am getting ‘Access Denied (error 5)’ error. What to do?
    A: The error message “Access Denied (5)” comes from Windows, GoodSync just relays it.
    It means that GoodSync cannot write file (or create/delete/read file or folder). It is caused by lack of permissions: your client computer is not allowed to perform certain file operations on your server computer.

    You should set permissions so that GoodSync can change files and folders on the server computer.

    An easy way to verify that you set permissions correctly is to use Windows Explorer running on the client to modify/rename/delete files served by the server. Once you can modify/delete files using Windows Explorer, GoodSync will be able to do the same. Note that you should be able to do this operation in non-elevated mode, that is, there should be NO shield next to the operation that you do in the context menu. Shield next to the operation means that elevation to super-user mode is required.

    1. How to set permissions on disk folder:
    – Files inherit permissions from their folders and folder inherit permissions form their folders.
    – So you need to find the folder that controls permissions of your folder, usually it is the top folder.
    – Right click this folder in Windows Explorer and select Properties, go to Security tab.
    – Select the group or user for which you want to change permissions.
    – If you want to give permission to everyone, then select the Everyone group.
    – Check Full Control box in the Allow column, this would allow to do anything with the folder.
    – Click OK and agree to change permissions of all files and folders inside.

    2. How to set permissions for Windows Net Share:
    – See detailed instructions on how to do this in the above FAQ item.

    Can you explain this in layman’s terms for a noob like me.

    Minh

    July 2, 2010 at 4:22 am

  11. So far, synback (free edition) with [safe setting cleared] seems to be working for me as it recognizes the skydrive (as network drive) and copying files to the skydrive (no 87 errors). (Its still in ‘progress’ as I am uploading ~12 gigs of pictures/home videos) or ~8000 files..

    Other observations:
    1) CrashPlan (will not detect the skydrive network drive)
    2) Richcopy (returns 87 errors)
    3) GoodSync (free edition has a limition of # of files that can be copied per job or something like that)
    4) Have not tried COMODO due to reasons mentioned above in this post

    Will update once the copy is succesfull with SyncBack

    SR

    July 9, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    • Hey SR. Anything to report with SyncBack? The Mapped Drive is online in Win7 but when I browse to the drive in SyncBack, SyncBack says that the mapped folder is offline.

      Stephen

      January 8, 2011 at 11:48 pm

  12. We made GoodSync work without mounted SkyDrive folder.

    Upgrade to GoodSync ver 8.3.0 at http://www.goodsync.com

    All these Access Denied were from the fact that SkyDrive does not like non-Office file extensions.

    Vadim Maslov

    July 25, 2010 at 5:03 am

  13. Correction:

    We made GoodSync work with SkyDrive folder mounted on your computer using Map Network Drive.

    Upgrade to GoodSync ver 8.3.0 at http://www.goodsync.com

    All these Access Denied were from the fact that SkyDrive does not like non-Office file extensions.

    Vadim Maslov

    July 25, 2010 at 5:04 am

  14. Using Outlook 2010 I can’t find “Click ‘File,” then click “Save and Send”(or “Share” if you have the beta version). Click “Save to Web”(or Save to SkyDrive in the beta version).”. When I click on file there is only a “save as” and then no way to access my skydrive location. Anyone have any ideas what I’m missing?

    Bruce

    July 31, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    • Yes. You need Word 2010.

      Andreas

      July 31, 2010 at 4:52 pm

      • I’m using Word 2007 now and am a little reluctant to install the beta version of Word 2010 over my 2007. Is there any other way to complete this skydrive backup process without using word?

        Bruce

        August 2, 2010 at 10:50 am

  15. ¿Este mismo procedimiento se podrá hacer en Windows XP Professional SP3 en lugar de Windows 7?

    Is this same procedure will be done in Windows XP Professional SP3 instead of Windows 7?

    Angel Guerrero

    August 5, 2010 at 2:08 am

  16. to avoid error 87 turn off option in goodsync which allows case-sensitive filenames (unless u need it). That worked for me.

    treety

    August 5, 2010 at 10:22 pm

  17. Hi! In your previous post (https://nysicsclubhouse.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/automatically-backup-to-skydrive/) you told that we could also use adrive instead of skydrive. What about this post; can we use Adrive with this tutorial too?

    night

    October 4, 2010 at 6:54 am

  18. Hi !

    After I uploaded all the files, Skydrive doesn’t “understand” it contains pictures, doesn’t show the “Slide show” button, and all the thumbnails are generic icons and not the pictures themselves.
    Any way to fix it ?

    yoho

    October 15, 2010 at 9:21 am

  19. Great post, works well, thanks

    Stupidy

    November 9, 2010 at 8:26 am

  20. I am not sure if this helps anyone but I was getting various backup errors on folders that contained “,” or “-” in the folder name. Once I renamed, all worked perfectly. A truly fantastic solution. Thanks op

    Dan Underwood

    November 13, 2010 at 8:50 pm

  21. While this does seem to be working, to upload about 1Gb of files over a 100Mbit internet connection (fiber, and yes, 100Mbit upstream) is going at exactly 4.00Kb/s. At home on my 10Mbit/1Mbit cable modem, I at least got 50.00Kb/s.

    Anyone know any way to make this thing upload the files any faster? I have ~20Gb to upload, but at this rate I’ll likely die of old age before I have to worry about seeing it finish! 🙂

    Diamond

    November 30, 2010 at 6:54 pm

  22. I’ve mounted the skydrive with goodsync and everything is working fine. My question is this – is there any solution for the 50mb limit and being limited to backing up only certain file types? It seems like a backup program that splits the backup into files less than 50 mb and renames file extensions would do the trick. Any ideas?

    frank

    December 2, 2010 at 12:24 pm

  23. Fix for error 123: Remove any “&”-signs from folder names

    Ais

    April 11, 2011 at 11:13 pm

  24. Well, it’s working so far, but I don’t really see any big advantage over using my web dav location.

    Andy

    May 20, 2011 at 7:54 am

  25. We had a massive simplicifcation of getting to SkyDrive in GoodSync ver 9 beta.

    Now SkyDrive has its own file system, and all you need to enter is Live/Hotmail Email and Password.

    This is the new wrieteup, uploaded to GoodSync FAQ:

    Q: Can GoodSync synchronize my data with Microsoft SkyDrive (Office Live storage)?
    A: Yes, GoodSync can do it.

    Prerequisits:
    Use GoodSync ver 9 beta — it has version number 8.7.0 or later, do not use GS ver 8 production.
    SkyDrive now has its own file system in GoodSync, do not use WebDAV file system for it.
    If you setup SkyDrive job using WebDAV file system, you need to change it to SkyDrive file system.
    Do NOT mount SkyDrive folder in Windows, use SkyDrive file system in GoodSync.

    This how you can set it up:
    Click Browse button on the right side of the job and select SkyDrive file system.
    Enter your Windows Live (HotMail or Passport) E-Mail and Password.
    Click Go to select folder in your SkyDrive account.
    Click OK to commit the changes.

    Vadim Maslov

    June 17, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    • Using GoodSync v9 beta and syncing to SkyDrive just fine as per prior post by Vadim. But, as noted by Yoho earlier in this thread, SkyDrive is not recognizing my uploaded .jpg files as Photos so there are just generic icons, no slide show, etc…

      Is anyone able to see GoodSync synced photos as photos in SkyDrive?

      mdconnelly

      June 23, 2011 at 12:14 pm

  26. OK, i found Photos in MS Live and it is trivial to sync to them in GoodSync

    click Browse button on the SkyDrive side of the job

    click Go button

    it will show you tree of folders.

    go to the top of the tree, open it, and you will see Photoes.

    drill down to album and you can sync to it as a folder

    Vadim Maslov

    June 24, 2011 at 1:15 am

  27. Anyone find out how to get thumbnails after syncing photos?

    I’ve tried to move photos, change their names and nothing succeed..
    I’ve downloaded one folder by SDExplorer then upload it again and thumbnails are showing…
    I really don’t understand WTF?

    doo

    July 2, 2011 at 4:40 pm

  28. I pretty much gave up on getting GoodSync to sync my photos to SkyDrive and have them recognized as photos. But SDExplorer worked perfectly. While I like all the functionality of GoodSync it just doesn’t seem to be the optimal choice if you want to be able to copy up photos to SkyDrive *and* have SkyDrive handle them as photos (which, to me, is a very big plus for SkyDrive and SDExplorer).

    mdconnelly

    July 2, 2011 at 9:53 pm

  29. Just use Live Mesh for backing up goodness.

    Sytone (@Sytone)

    August 10, 2011 at 5:56 pm

  30. Thanks

    Rust

    September 19, 2011 at 7:13 am

  31. I have used Goodsync for years but had never thought of combining the new Windows 7 features with it.

    Thanks for the easy instructions. It helped a great deal.

    Angelo Papiccio

    January 28, 2012 at 9:06 am

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  33. Thank you so much for a detailed description!
    I set it up to copy my picture files using SyncBack, and so far the simulation run executed successfully. Now on to the marathon backup session!
    I’ve been trying to figure out free backup to the cloud for days.
    Really appreciate you taking the time to document everything in such clear detail and share it with all of us.

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    April 1, 2012 at 10:08 am

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